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They. "The Heirarchy That enslave you"The Metaphysics of "THEY"

They? an answer to Timonist nihilism

GRUB STREET IN EXILE

JUN 29, 2024

https://grubstreetinexile.substack.com/p/they-the-heirarchy-that-enslave-youthe

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What a treat, I am really looking forward to listening to this. I have a dental appointment , I will use this treat as a recuperative tonic

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Robin Smith's avatar

Are you familiar with the fable of 'the dog in the manger'?

I humbly ask if your guests and colleagues are ready to place themselves under honest scrutiny in this context?

It's not good enough to say 'I realise I'm a dog too'. One must stop pointing it out in others by using the term "they" to escape so easily, in psychological terms.

A supplemental escape route from this allegation of mine is to say "look you are doing it too hypocrite"

And I would say "thank you for reinforcing my point so intensely. Then we're both in agreement on it about each other, right?".

There's nothing special about me being a messenger here. I'm just as complicit as you in my contributions to the world's great social problems. But I confess it openly, ready to accept the consequences, in the hope that opens a dialogue delivering progress onto higher ground for all. There are no guarantees of this of course. But without this personal confession it is guaranteed nothing will change.

This is useful depth psychology in a time where the vote is being rightly exposed as just another escape route for the weak in heart. Power can exploit us with it because we asked for it and by the very act of asking admit to our weakness. That is entirely a free choice we make, to demand democracy. It has never worked, nor is there any sign of it doing so. So why do we proceed with it and insist?

This is not in the least bit to claim to be superior. But as the first step in the possibility of progress, without which nothing will change about me. And then the world.

Your guest this time frequently used the term "they" when projecting blame. Which is astonishing because he is also fully complicit in the same kind of deep level problems he blames 'they' of. Evidently he is totally unaware of this. Because he cited several cases where others do exactly the same thing. He walks with a bag of other people's thoughts in front of him and those of his own behind him.

David, I've observed this frequently in you too, even back in the Golem days.

Don't you think it's time for a change? If you're deadly serious about progress. Yes, the left and the right are irrelevant today. As is democracy, whatever that is(it used to be sortition in ancient Greece not one man one vote). But has this not always been the case that democracy is an inherent farce?

We are not making progress because we're in chronic denial about the foundations of the house all of us are compelled by the world to build when we're born. That was not a free choice, and what will we make of it?

What we make of it is what makes us as actors in the world in spite of the problems. When we don't move onto the higher ground we simply continue to cause all the problems we blame in others. But do not realise it because we can escape with "They".

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They. "The Heirarchy That enslave you"The Metaphysics of "THEY"

They? an answer to Timonist nihilism

GRUB STREET IN EXILE

JUN 29, 2024

https://grubstreetinexile.substack.com/p/they-the-heirarchy-that-enslave-youthe

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Robin Smith's avatar

I am the hierarchy that enslaves me. If, I chose that.

I can escape by blaming 'they' as a feeble man with no soul not spirit. A dead man walking. The walking dead. Among a wasteland of inauthentic souls.

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I am part of the establishment ,

My stich is all about re-occupying the establishment with a healthy application of Chestertons fence.

How one expresses ones own disagreements within ones own social and wider societal context is a problem in un-free or proscribed systems of governance.

"They whom the gods despise they first make mad" or accuse of confirmation bias or some other personality flaw.

https://open.substack.com/pub/grubstreetinexile/p/sit-rep-special-re-occupy-the-establishment?r=l1oox&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

42. When any person harms you, or speaks badly of you, remember that he acts or speaks from a supposition of its being his duty. Now, it is not possible that he should follow what appears right to you, but what appears so to himself. Therefore, if he judges from a wrong appearance, he is the person hurt, since he too is the person deceived. For if anyone should suppose a true proposition to be false, the proposition is not hurt, but he who is deceived about it. Setting out, then, from these principles, you will meekly bear a person who reviles you, for you will say upon every occasion, "It seemed so to him."

https://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/epicench.html

https://open.substack.com/pub/grubstreetinexile/p/chrematistics-to-carbon-credits-the?r=l1oox&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Robin Smith's avatar

Why not start occupying yourself? Make yourself the authority over yourself. Else you are a de facto slave.

If you can bring for what is inside you, what you can bring forth will save you. If you cannot bring forth what is inside you, what you cannot bring forth will destroy you.

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We all find our own path, good luck with yours. I am not interested in joining you on yours, and quite happy to let others to figure out their own route.

In common with John and David i am not happy to be coerced, cajoled or otherwise manipulated by those who claim they know whats best for me, I take full responsibility as an adult for my own actions.

One size doesnt fit all and your brand of what I see as “self flagulation” does not work in my cultural milieu, have at it and fill your own boots , but count me out.

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